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Daniel Greco's avatar

I was more sympathetic to the Yglesias piece, and I want to try to say a bit about why.

There's an idea in political philosophy called "leveling down". Leveling down is achieving equality just by worsening the position of the better off, without improving the position of the worse off. It's generally taken for granted that an attractive version of egalitarianism won't endorse leveling down.

Part of what makes me uneasy about the kind of story you tell is my sense that the contemporary progressive left in the US (unlike the Yglesias center left) isn't particularly sensitive to the badness of leveling down, or the possibility that their preferred policies might amount to it.

Education is a salient example for me. When districts like San Francisco get rid of middle school algebra on egalitarian grounds (https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/22/nyregion/middle-school-math-algebra.html), or when my own public school district got rid of tracking in elementary school, it's hard for me to see that as anything but leveling down. It makes the high achieving kids worse off, but realistically, it doesn't make the lower achieving kids better off. Moreover, thinking in terms of inequality--e.g., noting that the class/racial makeup of middle school algebra classes tends to differ substantially from the class/racial makeup of the school districts in which they occur--rather than thinking in terms of whether some policy would actually help the worse off, makes it easier to miss when policies only reduce inequality by leveling down.

While it's a harder case, I think the popularity of wealth taxes--most extremely, the proposal to ban billionaires (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/06/opinion/abolish-billionaires-tax.html) -- around the 2020 primary was broadly similar. Wonkish Yglesias types told us that lots of countries in Europe tried wealth taxes and largely got rid of them for boring technoratic reasons; compared to other forms of taxation, they're a lot less efficient (ie, they raise less revenue) and more distortionary (ie, they cause people to do wasteful stuff to avoid them). But if you've already bought into an eat-the-rich story, those considerations just sound like excuses to avoid fighting the good fight.

Basically, in both cases, my sense is that the form of egalitarianism popular on the contemporary progressive left involves identifiyng inequalities and adopting policies that are intended to reduce them, without thinking too hard about whether the reduction will come in the form of leveling down. And since it's often easier to level down than to raise up, I think this is a recipe for making the country as a whole poorer without improving the lot of the poor.

I completely agree with you that the Yglesias style center left wing of the coalition lacks a good story, and that the progressive left story makes for better politics. But I worry that without a lot of restraint from the Yglesias wing, it often makes for bad policy.

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Joe Chuman's avatar

I am not familiar with Yglesias' thought, but I do know my own. As I have gotten older, I have become less committed to ideologies and more of a pragmatist. I want to know how specific policies and programs will actually make the lives of people better, noting that progressive pragmatism is not a contradiction in terms. Yes, to convince people politics need to be converted to stories. We are mythopoeic creatures who live and interpret the world through narratives. However, ideologies are not equatable to stories. Ideologies are baseline positions; stories are means of communication. While the threat from the right is currently overwhelming, I have grown weary of ideologies espoused by sectors of the left, which tragically promote conservative positions, especially those that emerge from transmogrified identity politics.

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